Letter to the Editor: From a Spiritual Child of Fr. Makris

Father Gerasimos Makris. (Photo by TNH/Costas Bej)

Dear Editor and Staff of The National Herald,

A most unjust and heinous persecution has been unleashed by the principalities and rulers of the darkness of this age against a most righteous, humble and honorable priest. In Proverbs we read, “The hypocrite with his mouth destroys his neighbor, but through wisdom the righteous will be delivered.”

As Christians, we are commanded to never bear false witness against another, this includes remaining indifferent and withholding the truth in the face of an onslaught of violence against the innocent. As a spiritual child of Father Gerasimos Makris, I am compelled to share a truthful personal testimony in support of this faithful servant of our Lord and Savior Jesus Christ.

In Proverbs again we read, “The righteous man walks in his integrity,” and it is in this righteousness, coupled with a highest caliber of integrity, that Father Gerasimos walks. Despite facing this deplorable act of vindictiveness set against him by his opponents, who have been influenced by disillusionment and are on a path of spiritual destruction, Father Gerasimos walks in truthfulness and righteousness.

Having known Father Gerasimos since 2006, I have had the blessing to spend much time with him as he has served in the capacity of Spiritual Father to many, including myself. Never has there been any indication or instance of his acting in a manner unbecoming of a priest of our Holy Orthodox Faith. In fact, quite the contrary, Father Gerasimos has served with distinction as long as I have known him and I can attest to his impeccable character with a first-hand account.

Recently there has been public mention of his admission of certain personal failings, but the tabloid press in New York and elsewhere has taken this innocent comment to fabricate a false narrative of their own making. Likewise, in 1976, Democratic Presidential Candidate Jimmy Carter innocently said, “I’ve looked on a lot of women with lust. I’ve committed adultery in my heart many times.” This seemingly innocent comment by Carter was of great political cost and the tabloid press went wild. Both President Carter and Father Gerasimos spoke innocently in their responses, with purity and sincerity of heart, but their confessions, based upon the highest degree of ethical standards weren’t comprehended by some, especially not in the media.

The National Herald on the one hand provides a service to the Greek-American community, but on the other, TNH provides a grave disservice when it casts our Archdiocese in an awfully negative light. Our hierarchs, clergy and laity offer such light into a dark world, I implore the TNH to write more on these topics. The Greek Orthodox Archdiocese of America is a source of love and life for so many throughout our nation and world, granted we face some difficult times, but by the grace of God we will persevere together as the body of Christ.

Saint John Chrysostom once said that oftentimes when we see our brother being devoured by a ferocious lion, we cast stones against our brother, rather than against the lion. Instead of casting stones at our brothers and sisters in Christ, we ought to help and support one another.

The Holy Cross parish in Brooklyn overwhelmingly supports Father Gerasimos precisely because he is honest, innocent, righteous, humble and worthy of the priesthood as much as any man can be. It is for this reason that so many of the faithful proclaimed, “Axios-Worthy,” as you had made mention in a previous article. I stand with them and cry out “AXIOS Father Gerasimos!” I can honestly state that in every instance of knowing Father Gerasimos, he has constantly upheld to the fullest degree of integrity the holy office of the Priesthood.

May our Lord and Savior Jesus Christ quench the fiery darts of the Evil One so treacherously cast against Father Gerasimos, and may our loving and merciful Lord grant him many more years serving in His Vineyard.

Presbyter Christopher Xanthos

Cheyenne, WY

86 Comments

  1. Father you have just proven why out Church and Archdiocese have become a laughingstock. The Spiritual Court was ignored in this case. The Sexual Harassment Guidelines we’re ignored in this case. A hearing wa scheduled last minute when the priest could testify but the victim could not. Why because a few wealthy women parishioners wanted him to stay against the wisdom of the Spiritual Court. The priest probably flatters them and pats their asses and gives them more attention than their husbands. The bishops ignored and buried similar charges against Father Passios until pictures of him and his “spiritual child” and their cake crush fetish were Meade public. Is that the standard in our GOA? If the dirty pics don’t make the front page of the newspaper you are okay? Father you should be on your knees before the nuns who were victimized by this priest begging their forgiveness. Your letter displays how little you respect our Sexual Abuse Guidelines and the Spiritual Court and the victims with whom this priest admitted several instances of impropriety. His blame the victims comments in the newspaper were also creepy.

    1. 1Michael … I have a lot of respect for you .. because you also ..understand how myth can be distorted and fabricated depending on the beneficiaries of the Fake News presentations …which thru smoke and mirrors narratives …. and sensationalism …make even the worst degenerates heroes …and the finest people …degenerates!
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      I have posted below …my support for Presbyter Christopher Xanthos …because, he is the only individual who has provided any evidence of the character of Fr. Makris ….and in reading the posts ..am appalled that these…have still not learned the lesson …that they can so easily be fooled by a corrupt media…who has demonstrated ..that they are very proficient in prosecuting , being judge , Jury and sentencing anybody ..on allegations of sexual hararrsment and Abuss by a couple of Nuns..who are part of an outside organization ..in alleging protecting women’s rights …and use Social Media and tweets …not legal authorities to make charges against the church …of sexual harrasment and abuse …which they themselves had no connection or victims of Fr. Matris!

      What we are seeing is another example of a lynch mob mentallity ..which has been programmed by the media and our government …to respond to every banner headline .. to bomb foreign countries , or to overthrow elected officials of our government ..like Donald Trump or the leaders of foriegn countries which have all been based on lies

      However … I would advise the readers to fully read the entire transcript of the New York Post article after you read my post! I am confident …you will really understand ..how you are easily fooled by a Publication which is nothing more than the mouth piece of a bunch of Aristocratic elitist littered in the Greek Secret Societies of America and the U.S . government…and have no idea ..what constitute inappropriate behavior …since .. Mr Makris ..has not been indicted by the criminal justice system ..like the 319 catholic clergy of the Archdiocese of New York , Pittsburg, and New Jersey! Please take the time to read my long posts…which unfortunately are usually painful to read ..by the hypocrites of this newspaper!

  2. This is beyond disappointing. Father, with all due respect, your letter shows a clear bias and lack of discernment due to your close personal relationship with Fr. Gerasimos. Please remember, that as a man and a fellow cleric, you certainly would not have had the opportunity to observe his inappropriate behavior towards women.

    Do you truly believe that priests are suspended and sent for treatment because they lusted in their heart for someone, or are you naively believing father’s apparent rewrite of history?

    Do you really think that the Spiritual Court (a court that did not provide the opportunity for the women to testify by the way) would rule that father should not return to his parish because he lusted in his heart over someone?

    It is unfortunate that rather than face the facts here, you choose to further victimize these women who were deeply hurt by their spiritual father whom they had known for many years, as well.

    Father Gerasimos is clearly a sick man troubled by a distinct passion. Those that truly love him should be demanding that he be placed in an environment where he (and others) will be safe from his passion.

    1. Hey Chuck .. Do you truly believe that the New York Post or TNH…. have represented the interest of the Orthodox Church in exposing a member of the Clergy for allegedly inappropriate behavior?

      Aren’t you missing something.. this TNH.mouth piece for the Greek Secret Society Cult of the Ahepa Masons… are the same people ..have been waging war on Archbishop Demetrios .by alleging corrupt administrative practices and embezzling money from the Archdiocese for his persona use., which has left the construction of the St. Nicholas Shrine short of money! Now they allege that the Orthodox Church is a bunch of sexual predators …because of allegation of Sexual Abuse and Harassment by allegedly Fr. Makris…which demands the resignation of the Archdiocese and reformation of the Church!
      ‘However .. . this is the same Editor and Newspaper which promoted and endorsed the candidacy of Robert Menendez for Senator of New Jersey … and a member of the Greek Secret Society of Aheopa Mason …who actually was found guilty by the Congress of the United States for corruption as the admianistrator and Senator of New Jersey for 18 counts of bribery , fraud etc etc ..and was censored by the Senate … Additionally,,, this member of the Greek Society ot the notorios Ahepa Masons was indicted on these 18 counts ..unlike Fr Makris or the Orthodox church …by his own democratic party …which is the first time in a generation …anybody …has been indicted by their own ruling party… and is depth of disgust the congress and justice system had for what this guy had done!

      Yet … instead of outrage that a member of the Secret Society of Ahepa Masons ..the self proclaimed but fraudulent representative of Hellenism and the Greek Community .. and demand for his resignation from the Ahepa … and representing an embarrasment to TNH …Secret Society…they actually . provided testimony to Robert Menendez … Ahepa member … character of honor , honesty, and most importantly representing the principles of Hellenism! This was their banner Headline ..not the picture of the convicted financial beneficiaries of Mr Menedez effort to defraud the Medicare of millions of dollars … and bribe Menendez to represent their personal interests …including cirvumventing the FBI investigation of his financial benefactor!

      No .. there were no calls …for the heads of the Secret Society of Ahepan…who fraudulently ..like TNH…. serve the Greek Community!

      So Chuck… look yourself in the mirror.. and try to do what the other mob lynching hate mongers of the Greek Orthodox church should do … and ask yourself … do I believe in the Gospel of the Greek Orthodox Church…or do I beleive in the Gospel of the church of TNH and the Secret Society of Ahepa masons!

      1. Posted about Michael Gianakos, As you ALL can see by his Moronic Manifestos he needs some serious help. He fits right in with the rest of Clowns running the ARCHO.

        Lower Manhattan Cynic says:
        December 12, 2018 at 8:27 pm
        Tony—Is he posting this insanity from prison? Be careful, my friend. It’s a nutty world.

        https://bismarcktribune.com/news/state-and-regional/gianakos-makes-bid-for-third-murder-trial/article_d5639667-c0ac-559e-a44b-b9740175aa58.html

    2. And what is your proof on your accusation against Father Makris ??

      And how can you be talking like that about people ??

      And who assigned you as the Judge of everybody ?

      If you can answer to those three questions then we can consider your statement above !
      Otherwise this is only words …

      Thanks

      1. @Christos:

        1. As reported elsewhere, Fr. Makris admitted in a meeting at the Archdiocese to inappropriate relations of a sexual nature with two women. He was suspended and sent for therapy.
        2. I’m not sure what you mean here.
        3. The Spiritual Court was the judge, not me and not Fr. Christopher.

        Each of your questions could fairly be posed to Fr. Xanthos:
        1. What is your proof that the accusations are false?
        2. Why do you feel the need to resort to name-calling in order to defend Fr. Makris.
        3. And who assigned you as the Judge of everybody ?

  3. Fr. Christopher – you write this as if we should all believe you and your first hand experience of Fr. Gerasimos. What about his victims’ first hand experience of him? We’re all just supposed to bow down to this man’s admission of impropriety as if it’s a point to add on his synaxarion entry? It’s statements like yours that show where the real “powers of darkness” lie-within the ranks of clergy who cover up and excuse abuse, and ultimately try to silence victims.

    1. Hey Spartacus … and Koukla … this is my reply to Lower Manhattan and you …..or now lower Gutter ..has just demonstrated how TNH and some of their Greek Secret society of cult followers have defamed Fr. Makris …and .distort information to discredit not only him …but all the clergy of the Greek Orthodox Church! Keep it coming … the Jimmy Jones …people’s temple cult… and thank you for informing us …how the current Secret society in Washington …now operates!

      It just doesn’t get better than this … thanks to lower Manhattan …she has completely discredited the …victims of Fr. Makris …which …unless … the readers of TNH …are completely Brain Dead …should provide you with all the information you need …to ask for the resignation of Tony Diamantars…for conspiracy to defame …without due process …other than the gospel singers liitering this Newpaper!

      However,,, when you add it all up…silly me… how could i miss this … you guys hate Fr. Makris …for having a relationship with two women …who have never contacted anyone …to say that Fr. Makris forced himself on them! That’s it KOUKLA….. your angry because he actually had a relationship with a women ….something apparently …you never had in you entire life!

      Just think .. what if he had said …he had a relationship with two men …would you condemn him or cheer him on! You can bet your last dime … you guys would not want to offend or discriminate the gay community by saying his hugging was inappropriate! Imagine that … the gay community would be up in arms … witnessing a relationship between two men and a Christian Priest…the mortal enemies!

      So stay with me . kOUKLA , SPARTACUS. REPANIDI … AND THE REST OF THE MEMBERS OF OUR FRAUDULENT GREEK SECRET SOCIETIES… WHO HAVE BEEN EXPOSED … BY lOWER MENHATTAN AND SPARTACUS …FOR THEIR CAMPAIGN OF FABRICATING INFORMATION ..TO DISCREDIT AND DEFAME ….FR. MAKRIS ..AND CHRISTOPHER…AND ME!

      DEDICATED TO FR. MAKRIS AND CHRISTOPHER … PRESENTING THE FOOLS OF TNH…..

      Hey ,,,,lower Manhattan … or more like lower gutter …you, Tony and your Greek Secret Society of Ahepa Masons ……just cannot help yourself….in doing what …I as a former member of your cult …do best!

      Fabricating , distorting, and prosecuting those who obstruct your possessed minds of power and authority …and like your commies and fascist ….in our government…. funded by a bunch of Anglo White Supremacist Masons…. to promote their exceptionalism in taking over the sovereignty of any independent country of the world to control them …. and make them subserviiant to there beliefs.

      Hence ,,, it is clear …that the Orthodox Church and most Christian religions … do not possess the degenerate and appropriate beliefs of you and your comrades!

      However,,,,I submit your.. Post to me …as further evidence in defense fo Fr. Makris and the Orthodox Church …. where again you fraudulently attempt to discredit me , just like you and Tony ..have done against someone who I do not know …but do know you…..named Father Makris !

      What I also know that … your judicial protocal …is to fabricate charges…call the person insubordinate and then thru some secret meeting, without any opportunity to refute fall charges … …find Fr. Makris guilty and demand his dismissal!

      This is this the protocol …of Secret Societies like the Greek Ahepa Masons… and you shouldn’t be surprised by the Secret Society that now owns our democracy …and while Donald Trump …maybe in the end … a tyrant and war criminal … the Mueller investigation without any evidence .to support Russiagate …is just an example …of how our society and democracy ..has been completely hijacked ….and so corrupted ..it is probably irreparable!

      There are hundred of Gianakos names on Google … some whose names have been shortened …and some who like the Smith name …or very common among Greeks!

      Thank you lower Manhattan or Allias …lower gutter… for making the case for Fr. Makris …that he is just another victim of one of TNH and his Secret Society of Masons to discredit him and the Orthodox Church…who are regularly are promoted in their newspapers!

      Father Makris should not take this personally..just business as usual for these creeps ..who beleive they must do whatever is necessary to fulfill their personal agenda’s

      Today … a women named…. Stormy Daniels …who alleged Sexual abuse and an affair against Donald Trump .. which received banner headlines by the Fake News Media .. has lost her case …in a defamation suit by Donald Trump …. she is now obligated to provide him with $400,000 in damages!

      Additionally, the attorney for Stormy Daniels , …another one of those prostitutes of the legal profession …has since been charged with Domestic Violence against his wife! I should remind you ..she to received banner headlines by TNH and New York Post!

      However,,, Tony.. the honorable promoter of the Secret Society of Ahepa Masons..has also provided evidence of his complicity with fake news and journalistic bias …when he featured a banner headline …that TNH . promoted and endorsed the candidacy of Ahepa Member Robert Menendez ..for Senator of New Jersey to the Greek Community!

      Robert Menendes… is a senator who was found guilty and censored for 18 counts of bribery , fraud ,laundering of gifts …which included the payment of underage teenage prostitutes in the Dominican Republic! The bribery …was in attempting to obstruct the investigation by the FbI …into the Medicare Fraud by the Jewish Doctor of one of the leading Jewish lobbies who provided all the gifts, money and girls to Mr. Menendez…which are irrefutable by the FbI… and this doctor ..despite Mr. Menendez best efforts…was still found guilty of stealing millions of dollar from Medicare!

      Lower Manhattan …google that up.! And also …give Tony a call … to ask him why he did not expose the scandal …by an Ahepa member …who alleges to represent Hellenistic values and principle of the Greek community …was still a member of the Ahepa Masons organization ….and why the leadership of Ahepa …is still operating!

      Why not .. Tony…but then again …your dirty little secrets ..of this fraudulent society …would be out!

      Lower Manhattan…you and this secret society …should not be allowed to parade in our churches …and kneel at the altar of our churches …to wear their medallions …to recruit church members …to their cult!
      They should not be allowed on our boards or participate in our church facilities!

      It is time …Orthodox Christians identify real enemies of our church ..within the church …but don’t count on it from TNH or lower Manhattan!

      1. Michael Gianakos,

        You are way to much fun, and truly disturbed. We are all sure you will become the next Arch Bishop. You fit right in with the rest of the Clowns running the church. Might be a good time to get back on your meds, because we are all laughing at you. Please keep telling us about “Secret Society of Masons ” while you live in your mothers basement.

  4. Father, with all due respect your letter shows a clear bias and lack of discernment due to your personal relationship with Father Gerasimos. As a man, and a fellow cleric, it is unlikely that you would have had any opportunity to observe the inappropriate behavior that Fr. engaged in with women.

    Do you really think that a priest would be suspended and sent for very expensive treatment because he lusted in his heart? (It sounds as though you are believing the attempts of your spiritual father to rewrite history.)

    Do you honestly believe that a spiritual court, which consisted of clerics who also had personal connections with father, would recommend that he not be returned to the parish simply because he lusted in his heart (or something equally innocuous)?

    Your comments neglect to take into account that these women were deeply hurt by someone whom they also trusted and respected as a spiritual father. Unfortunately, your words unnecessarily heap more hurt upon them.

    Father Gerasimos clearly suffers from a serious passion. Those who truly love him would support his being placed in an assignment where he could no longer harm himself ir others by acting on his passion.

  5. This is absolutely disgusting. You can NEVER know what a person does in secret. Predators cultivate followers. I myself sought this man’s counsel for a short time, but then had my own creepy and violating experiences of this predator and was blessed enough to get away from him quickly, after he tried to manipulate me and then emotionally punished me for not wanting to hug him or have any kind of physical interaction with him. So you will never convince me of this foolishness.
    And further, how is it that you can assault the character of these women without actually knowing what happened? Oh, right, because the patriarchy only believes and protects its own… These women have been assaulted physically, spiritually, and emotionally; violated, ignored, threatened, harrassed, blackballed and shunned by all of this predators’ spiritual children from doing their work supporting women victims of sex trafficking (when they themselves were victims of a sexual predator, no less!!!), gossiped about, forced to endure all manner of verbal violence like your particular assault here against them, and all the while trying to come to terms with what happened to them. Why in heavens would anyone voluntarily endure all of that for some kind of petty agenda? You must be kidding. He ADMITTED it. And even if it were as minor as you seem to think it is, it was UNWANTED, which makes it violating and traumatic. Do you not get it? It VIOLATED them. For over 10 years. It traumatized them, and here he and you act as if unwanted advances, touching, harassing, emotional and spiritual abuse, are just no big deal… Do you follow your spiritual father’s example with your own spiritual children?
    You clearly know NOTHING of what actually happened, you just think that because he’s seemingly a good, righteous guy in your experience, it MUST be untrue. And he likely managed to convince you of that. A truly humble man and monastic would be appalled that you wrote this on his behalf. My guess: he put you up to it.
    Are you really that naive? Do you always disbelieve your female parishioners when they tell you they’ve been violated by a man? Remind me never to send anyone to you.
    Do you not know that predators are extremely skilled in cultivating this kind of image for themselves, because it gives them access to victims? Apparently you haven’t taken the GOA’s own (mandatory) sexual abuse risk management course, otherwise you would know the red flags when you see them. Or is it just that your sycophantic adoration of him (just like with some of his other spiritual children) blinds you to what the rest of us all see so clearly?
    Congrats, you got your dribble published in TNH. Hope the glory you gain for five minutes from persecuting victims feels good, Father. Here I’d hoped you’d grown out of your narcissim and judgmentalism and misogyny since you graduated the theological school and got ordained. I see you haven’t.
    #belivewomen #churctoo #metoo

    1. Very much agree with your statement that a true monastic would be appalled by this attack. Under the circumstances, a true monastic would not have returned to his parish to dinners and shouts of axios either.

      It is a concern that he was Dean of Students at HCHC and had access to so many of our young people.

    2. As someone who knows Fr. Christopher, I can tell you that his narcissism and misogyny are still on full display in his life and are not limited to letters to the editor. It is disappointing that such a man holds the position that he does. Obviously we should not demand perfection from our priests, but his words and actions consistently show him to be someone who belongs elsewhere. It’s disheartening that he should choose to write this letter, but it is far from surprising.

      1. As someone who also knows Fr. Christopher, I can tell you that, whether one agrees with his position or not, he is far from a narcissist or misogynist. Would it not be wiser and more constructive for commentators to focus on a discussion concerning the merits of his arguments rather than personally attacking him? Nobody benefits from such vitriol.

        (Anticipated response: Do you think the women who Fr Makris admits to having inappropriate interactions with benefit when Fr Makris is defended?!?!?!

        My response: Again, we can have a discussion about whether Fr Christopher’s defense of Fr Makris is appropriate or wise. That’s a fair discussion. It is not fair, however, to personally attack Fr Christopher. I and many others know him in a far different way than you have portrayed him. When we attack the messenger rather than criticize the message, nobody benefits… including the one making the attacks.)

      2. Shame on you “friend” to talk like this about Father Christopher !
        Father Christopher is a True Jewel Of a Character and knowing him is a Blessing !!

        Like a coward you hide your face in anonymity and you spit poison against an Innocent TRUE MAN with a Sweet Heart !

        If you wish to be taken seriously reveale your identity and then prove your words !!

        Father Christopher is one of the Best Men (top 4 ) that I have met in my life and I have met Many Great Men !!

        Shame of you to dare to speak like that by hiding your face like a Coward !!

    3. As someone who knows Fr. Christopher, I can tell you that his narcissism and misogyny are still on full display in his life and are not limited to letters to the editor. If only he had changed since your time in school. It is disappointing that someone like this is in his position as a presbyter of the church. Obviously we should not expect perfection from priests, but his words and actions have consistently shown that he is not fit for his role. He has so forcibly come to the defense of this man, framing the women who have accused Fr. Makris and others as the ” the rulers of the darkness of this age” demonstrating no sympathy for these women. None of this is surpising given the way he seems to think of women, their opinions, and their agency. Abusers are successful when others protect them. Shame on Fr. Christopher.

      1. “Friend” BE ASHAMED OF YOURSELF for lying towards such a Great Person as Father Christopher is !!

        Keep hiding like a coward throwing rocks to innocents .

        I dare you to reveale yourself and prove your words !!
        …..
        I am filled with RAGE from the garbage that your comments have!!

        I can’t sit as a viewer watching worms like you throwing mad in an Angel on Earth like Father Christopher Xanthos !!

        Once Again: SHAME ON YOU !!

      2. As someone who also knows Fr Christopher, I can say that “narcissism and misogyny” are hardly words I would ever use to describe him. I don’t necessarily agree with Fr Christopher’s point of view, here, but there is no good that will come out of attacking the messenger rather than simply criticizing his message. A civil dialogue can take place without a personal attack on the author’s character.

        (Anticipated response: You care about Fr. Christopher’s character being attacked but not the women who were harmed by Fr. Makris?!?!

        My response: You are missing the point of my words. If you disagree with Fr. Christopher’s arguments, then by all means, say so and explain why. As I said, I don’t necessarily agree with him or with what has happened with Fr. Makris. But attacking Fr. Christopher helps nobody. All is does is harm… both him and yourself. It is unjust and unfair to personally attack Fr. Christopher’s character here. And I am but one of many who would say that your attacks on him are far from the priest and friend we know.)

    1. USMC12, Xanthos served with the Marines in Iraq if I’m not mistaken. Too caught up in considering Makris a part of his OO-RAH culture, defend at all costs type thing. That’s my best guess.

    2. USMC12, Xanthos served with the Marines in Iraq if I’m not mistaken. Too caught up in considering Makris a part of his OO-RAH culture, defend at all costs type thing. That’s my best guess.

  6. Honestly, I think the reason his sycophantic spiritual children don’t want to believe it is because they don’t want to believe that the wall was pulled over their own eyes.
    Either way, this article and his spiritual childrens’ behavior toward these victims of blackballing them and disallowing parishioners to talk to or visit them, and publicly attacking them… is VERY unbecoming. If this is how he teaches his spiritual children to behave, I’m definitely glad I and my family are not among them.

  7. Fr. Xanthos, your defense is based on the fallacy that good and bad are mutually exclusive, i.e. a “good” person cannot do bad things, and likewise, a “bad” person cannot do good things. Because you know Fr. Makris as “honest, innocent, righteous, humble and worthy” does not mean that he is incapable of behaving otherwise. (Remember how many people said Larry Nassar was a great guy who “helped” a lot of young girls?)

    Believe victims. Believe these women.

    1. Carmen ??

      Nobody is Guilty until PROVEN GUILTY !

      Show me the facts and I will decide .

      People’s FREEDOM OF SPEECH DOES NOT stop where feelings begin !

      FACTS and PROOFS

      Thank you

  8. Since Fr Xanthos chose to reference Proverbs in his defense of an admitted sexual predator (in this case the priest admitted to inappropriate *relations* not simply lustful thoughts, which BTW he admits to on his parish website: check out the tab church etiquette), I would like to point out another Proverb.

    Proverb 18:13 He who gives an answer before listening will be put to shame.

    The GOA and Fr Xanthos are being put to shame at this moment for not listening and yet trying to provide answers. Did they listen to the victims who came forward? Did they listen to Makris’ admission? Did they listen to the Sexual Misconduct Policy? Did they listen to the teachings of our Church? Did they listen to the Gospel? Sadly, we know the answer and as it has been said by others, we and future generations will pay the price of the current tone deaf leadership of the GOA.

  9. You just compared a man who admitted tio inappropriate relationships with women over whom he had power to a man who openly objectified women. Thanks for pointing out all of their faults. Let’s just say this… How in the world could you in good conscience bury your head in the sand on this?

  10. Take off your Cross “father” you just shot yourself in the foot with your letter. Thank you 🙂
    Exposing you ALL is not only easy, but so much fun!

    Best of luck.

    1. Go jump in a Lake “Spartacus” .

      You dare call yourself that !!
      You dare call yourself with the name of a Hero and a Liberator !!

      Father Christopher Xanthos is a Level that you will NEVER BE ABLE TO REACH !!

      Keep hiding like a coward !
      Like a worm in the mud !

      Between you and Father Christopher there is NO COMPARISON !!
      You can’t compare an EAGLE ( Fr. Chris ) with a Fly ! YOU !

      Coward !!

  11. Michael …for someone who has an understanding of the myths good and bad …that the Media now dictate …I am surprised by your quick attack on Fr Makris and Presbyter Christopher Xanthos!

    Gpd Bless you! .. Christopher …and I mean God Bless you! … it is very easy to publiclly condemn and to support popular opinion of hypocrites and distorted narrative to hang someone …like a lynch mob, but you have demonstrated …that one should not forget …that the person you defame .. has a resume …which should not be ignored …and not be considered before you hang him!

    Importantly…I am posting what I had sent to the Editor of this discredited Greek Secret Society mouthpiece of a cult following of a bunch of degenerates in Washington … and it is nice and long …to clearly highlight what the new age form of journalism is … and how it is practiced by TNH… and in complete support of a very noble , courageous and loyal friend …who does not abandon his fellow human being!
    Mr. Antonios … now acknowledged spokesman, promoter , and follower of the Secret Greek Society of Ahepa Masons … and their Glory to America obedience to a fascist government of the United States …which includes an enemy list of independent countries of the world ..not subservient to the Anglo White Supremacist Culture worshiped by many of the readers of TNH….but also Religious organizations like the Orthodox Church and the Islamic churches ….all who happen to be the dominant religions of the Countries of the Middle East and Eastern Europe, and represent threats to their securing the control of their countries!

    Apparently, Mr. Antonis … an obvious Neo Con Aristocratic member of the Deep State followers …has again been part of a hit job on the Orthodox Church , according to the New York Post … who uses The National Herald ..apparently..for their source of information …as highlighted in their Article …and nothing more than fake Tabloid magazines do … sensationalize rumors and social media Tweets ..to indict the entire Orthodox Church for Sexual Abuse and Harrasment agaisnt women ! However …their indictment is very different ….than those indicted by the Criminal justice System and law enforcement … like the 319 CLERY OF TH E ARCH DIOCESE OF THE CATHOLIC ARCHDIOCESE IN PITTSBURG, NEW JERSEY, AND NEW YORK!

    YOU SEE… TNH…WITH THE HELP OF THEIR FAKE NEWS …PROPAGANDA BROTHERS … FROM THE NEW YORK POST….HAVE NO RIGHT TO DEFAME ANY CLERGY, CHURCH OR ORGANIZATION WITHOUT LEGAL INDICTMENTS BY THE CRIMINAL JUSTICE SYSTEM BASED ON VERIFIABLE EVIDENCE AND TESTIMONY TO THE CHARGES BY A GRAND JURY

    THE HEADLINES … ARE SIMPLY ,, WHAT HAS TAKEN OVER OUR SOCIETY …BY CORRUPT AND DESPICABLE .NEWS MEDIA …TO MAKE THEM THE LEGITIMATE PROSECUTORS, JUDGES , AND JURIES OF THE AMERICAN PEOPLE! TO THIS END… THEIR IS NO NEED FOR DEBATE …IN THE SELLING OF FALSE WARS, WAR CRIMES AND IN THE INCITEMENT OF HOSTILE RELATIONS WITH FOREIGN COUNTRIES OF THE WORLD.! TO THIS END…THE SELLING OF ELECTIONS AND THE REMOVAL OF THE PRESIDENT OF THE UNITED STATES …BASED ON ANOTHER ALLEGATION WITHOUT EVIDENCE AT ALL … OR INDICTMENT … USING THE BANNER OF RUSSIA GATE!

    But let’s see how this is highlighted by the efforts of TNH and the New yorjk post to continue …the Global agenda ..of war against the Orthodox Church and Christianity …in order to eliminate those organization …that teach us to love , and not to hate our enemies!

    From the New York Post articles and TNH review…which they count on you not reading … and just read their banner….

    The “ALLEGATIONS” against Makris surfaced in the fall of 2017, from ” A” woman who was “made to feel unnecessarily uncomfortable with interactions” with the priest including “hugs lasting too long etc. but NOTHING OVERLY SEXUAL,” Bishop Andonios Paropoulos, the chancellor of the Greek Orthodox Archdiocese, told The Post.

    He said Makris was told to have no contact with the woman. During a meeting in January, the priest revealed he had relations with two other women “and while they were not of the usual sexual interactions one thinks of, they were inappropriate,” the bishop said.

    “Father was immediately suspended,” he said. He added the ‘WOMEN HAD NOT NOT CONTACTED THE ARCHDIOCESE”

    TRANSLATION … MR. MAKRIS WAS ACCUSSED OF HUGGING …WHICH ALL PEOPLE AND CLERGY DO EVERY DAY … AND MADE A WOMEN UNCOMFORTABLE ” EXCUSE ME.. WHY DIDN’T MY WIFE OF 35 YEARS REPORT ME TO THE POLICE OR CHURCH …TO INFORM ME ..IF I WAS HUGGING HER AND MAKING HER UNCOMFORTABLE!

    FURTHERMORE.. IF YOU READ THE BANNER … YOU WOULD HAVE THOUGHT THIS PRIEST …HAD SEXUALLY ABUSED AND ASSAULTED THIS WOMEN …LIKE THE INDICTED 319 PEDIPHILES OF THE CHILDREN OF THE CATHOLIC ARCHDIOCESE. AND CLERGY … BY THE CRIMINAL COURTS OF OUR GOVERNMENT !

    ON THE CONTRARY.. UNLIKE THE WOMEN WHO ORTHODOX PRIEST MAKRIS … ADMITTED HE HAD A RELATIONSHIP .. BUT DID NOT FILE ANY COMPLAINTS WITH THE ARCHDIOCESE … OR EVEN CONTACT THE PROPER AUTHORITIES … AND WHO CLERGY MAKRIS .. IS LEGALLY AND SPIRITUALLY … ABLE TO HAVE A RELATIONSHIP WITH WOMEN …SINCE, IF YOU NEED TO BE REMINDED …EVERYDAY… CLERGY MEMBERS …WHO DO NOT WISH TO ASCEND TO HIGHER POSITIONS IN THE ORTHODOX CHURCH …ARE HAVING RELATIONSHIPS… AND MANY LEADING TO HOLY MATRIMONY …ALLOWED BY THE ORTHODOX CHURCH!

    So .. Mr. Antonis …unfortunately for you and your Greek Secret Society …I read , review , and make my own judgments based on facts ….not by your false narratives and propaganda promotion of apparently, in support of the United States degenerates …the destruction of our Orthodox Church !

    To this end ,,,,, you would be serving the Orthodox Church …if you indicted a servant of the U.S church of religious abuse …. Archbishop Bartholomew …for conspiracy to divide the Orhtodox church of the Ukraine and the Russian Orthodox church …based on political demands and false allegations by the United States and the neo nazi regime in the Ukraine …that the Ukrainian church was collaborating with the Russia Orthodox church and the goverment of Russia …to threaten the democracy of the Ukrainian people !

    But lastly .. the readers …can find out the real intentions of Mr. Diamantaris…who should resign immediatiely for his false narratives to discredit the Clergy and archbishop of the Greek Orthodox church …by leaving the readers of the New York Post …with another allegation and false narrative ..still unproven…as follows.

    Makris did not respond to a request seeking comment. He was scheduled to lead mass at the church Sunday. That right .. leading mass… and rightfully so !

    The Greek Archdiocese of America, which is based on the Upper East Side, has also faced financial scandal recently. Its signature cathedral, the St. Nicholas Shrine project at Ground Zero, is half built and construction stalled a year ago when the archdiocese ran out of money amid investigations into church spending.

    “They keep supporting their own despite the worst stories, the worst circumstances,” said one church insider. “Whether it’s the embarrassment of an incomplete St. Nicholas or this Makris story, the leadership of our church whether on 79th street or Istanbul are tone deaf and out of touch.

    “It’s embarrassing and heartbreaking and must change.

    The only thing missing from this last paragraph …was a sign off by the Editor of a now …discredited member of the fake news community … who has fooled Greek Americans and Greeks in general ..like their masters in Washington and their Greek Secret Societies.

    1. Michael Gianakos,

      If you are the ARCHO’s only P.R. person left you guys are in way worst shape then I thought. You just keep parting on the deck of the Titanic.

      1. Hey Spartacus ..I have a scoop for you…. it is our society that has already sunk… which is irreparably disfunctional and lost!

        The original church of Christ… the Greek Orthodox Church has floated for thousands of years .. surviving and continuing to serve the faithful of Christ by providing them with the authentic and indisputable means of how to worship him …and the values of how we are to conduct our lives …in his name …not those of degenerates of our government or Secret Societies!

        The problem for you and these other hypocrites …is that outside of yourselves … the faith full of the Greek Orthodox Church …have no clue to what ails you and your issues with th e Archdiocese …because ,,,, they do not worship them …they worship at their church …Christ! They are volunteers of their church … to administer and operate their local churches …and they hire the clergy …of the Archdiocese …to do one job… teach and remind them of what and how they are to worship our load …and to practice his laws of life on earth .. but which you like Spiro , and our society .. rarely live by!

        It is the Orthodox Church which is the only hope for our society….and their is nothing left ..to remind and educate our children of the future …as to the values we need …judge and recognize good or bad And this is what , the degenerates of our government fear the most !

        Therefore …outside of TNH and Mass Steam media ..who would like us all to believe that their views .. are the views of all American …when it is the view of only 1 % of the population ….the Greek American faithful …have no intentions of overthrowing an Archdioces …which has served our community for thousands of years!

        And you can call them all the names you want …and no one will listen to you!

        Because … it takes in most cases …a special person … obligated to tell the truth every Sunday … and who must answer …to the only legitimate master of us all !

        Those who do not tell the truth or violate their responsibility …betray God …and unlike just losing your job…you lose your soul!

        Spartacus ..it is your ship ..that is sinking ..with the bulk head of Christian values …which includes mercy and justice for all!

        Today , Stomy Daniels … the accuser of Donald Trump as a sexual abuser and having an Affair with him .has lost in court defamation charges by Donald Trump …and she is ordered to pay almost $400,000 in damages for not showing any merits to her claimes! Remember …she was also a banner headline stooge of TNH and Mass Media!

        While it is not in the character of the Orthodox Church and Fr Makris….i would highly recommend they hire a Nice Jewish lawyer …from the Anti jewish Defamation league to represent them …in a defamation lawsuit against the accusers of Fr. Makris and TNH … and based on these posts ..like you …. the orthodox Church can make up the shortage in the St. Nicholas shrine project … and go on to build about 10 more cathedrals with the amount of money they could earn ..in going after these character assassins!

    2. Simply put, priests should not, at any time, hug any woman who is not related to them. Simple. Effective. Doesn’t put fuel on a passion that might be lurking. Avoids creating the impression of impropriety even if there is none.

    3. These “real Orthodox” as opposed to us average parishioners are the ones who are going to sink the ship. We are swimming in a Sea of S*** and sinking fast—and all these holier than thou types are oblivious. They can’t get out of the own way to see the truth and the dirty clean up that needs doing.

  12. I see there are many here who have such a negative opinion of what Fr. Xanthos has to say and I respect what they have to say. There are a few questions I must pose with all the criticism I see of two different clergy.

    1) What evidence do you have that supports your comments concerning Fr. Makris and Fr. Xanthos?
    2) Speaking of either of these two clergy what is it that you know that others don’t concerning their lives?
    3) What do you know of these nuns that there is credibility to these allegations?

    There are a few things about all involved.

    1) Fr. Makris has done his best to live an ascetic life outside of the monastic community he’s a part of.
    2) Fr. Makris has no issue admitting that he’s human and makes mistakes.
    3) He does not keep honorariums for himself. He uses it to help those who are in need.
    4) He was the nuns (who are making the accusations) spiritual father till there was some sort of falling out.
    5) These were two nuns (of three original) who started a monastery on L.I.
    6) The eldest nun died and for years they have been just two nuns and their monastery has not grown. Why? Other monasteries grow slowly in numbers.
    7) What evidence do they present that to support their accusations?
    8) Is their a concerted effort to stop Fr. Makris from advancing into a position of becoming a hierarch with accusations?
    9) What is the evidence of impropriety and is anyone hiding it?

    There are many questions none of which can solidly be answered and I must therefore believe all side that they believe what they’re saying is the truth. Therefore somewhere in the middle lies the truth. Let’s exercise restraint before we make a judgement call.

      1. The problem lies in the wording. He uses terms “Inappropriate relations”. What does that mean? Did he hug them too long? Did he try and kiss them? Did he have sexual relations with them? Was he texting pictures of his privates as other have done? Did he flirt with them? Terminology is very vague and makes it difficult to make a judgement call.

      2. @anonymous
        I disagree. The terminology, “inappropriate relations”, in the context of sexual misconduct has a very clear connotation. Unless, you are a lawyer–then you can, like Bill Clinton, argue the definition of the word “is”.

        I find your questions about the sordid details irrelevant–the Spiritual Court was charged with making these determinations, and they decided that fr makris should not be placed back into the parish–a decision which the Archdiocese ignored in order to placate parishioners in Brooklyn according to Bishop Andonios.

        Now, lets discuss your first concern–that many of us responded to Fr. Xanthos’ defense of fr makris. First, fr Christopher chose to make a defense which accused the victims of being vindictive liars, and disillusioned hypocrites. You likewise make insinuations. You both have access to the same information I just mentioned. That fr makris’ defenders resort to this to defend him is very telling. Shame on both of you.

    1. Anonymous…..well said .. in india .. a catholic nun made the same allegations about the Cahtolic Bishop of her Archdiocese… and based on evidence .. the bishop alleged that these accusatons were vindictive retribution for being dismissed with others from the order

      you should aldo know the following …in the indictment of TNH…and their mob of hate mongrels ..to understand …how defaming Fr. Makris …is not by accident …and simply …another example of unsupported character assassination of the clergy of the orthodox Church …without proper vetting …which only plays to vigilante hate groups …who seize the moment to opportunistically fulfill whatever agenda they have!
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      Why should anyone believe the honorable and distinguished spokesman for the fraudulent Greek Secret society of Ahepa … Tony Damataris …

      Case in point….. this TNH.mouth piece for the Greek Secret Society Cult of the Ahepa Masons… are the same people ..have been waging war on Archbishop Demetrios .by alleging corrupt administrative practices and embezzling money from the Archdiocese for his persona use., which has left the construction of the St. Nicholas Shrine short of money! Now they allege that the Orthodox Church is a bunch of sexual predators …because of allegation of Sexual Abuse and Harassment by allegedly Fr. Makris…which demands the resignation of the Archdiocese and reformation of the Church!
      ‘However .. . this is the same Editor and Newspaper which promoted and endorsed the candidacy of Robert Menendez for Senator of New Jersey … and a member of the Greek Secret Society of Aheopa Mason …who actually was found guilty by the Congress of the United States for corruption as the admianistrator and Senator of New Jersey for 18 counts of bribery , fraud , taking gifts which included paid for prostitutes of underage tenage girls of the Dominican Republic ..and was censored by the Senate …

      Additionally,,, this member of the Greek Society of the notorious Ahepa Masons, was formally indicted on these 18 counts ..unlike Fr Makris or the Orthodox church …by his own democratic party …which is the first time in a generation …anybody …has been indicted by their own ruling party… and is depth of disgust the congress and justice system had for what this guy had done!

      Yet … instead of outrage that a member of the Secret Society of Ahepa Masons ..the self proclaimed but fraudulent representative of Hellenism and the Greek Community .. and demand for his resignation from the Ahepa … and representing an embarrasment to TNH …Secret Society…they actually . provided testimony to Robert Menendez … Ahepa member … character of honor , honesty, and most importantly representing the principles of Hellenism! This was their banner Headline ..not the picture of the convicted financial beneficiaries of Mr Menedez effort to defraud the Medicare of millions of dollars … and bribe Menendez to represent their personal interests …including cirvumventing the FBI investigation of his financial benefactor!

      No .. there were no calls …for the heads of the Secret Society of Ahepan…who fraudulently ..like TNH…. serve the Greek Community!
      So you honorable hypocrites… look yourself in the mirror.. and try to do what the other mob lynching hate mongers of the Greek Orthodox church should do … and ask yourself … do I believe in the Gospel of the Greek Orthodox Church…or do I believe in the Gospel of the church of TNH

    2. 1) He admitted it
      2) He admitted it
      3) He admitted it-also… On what grounds do you discredit them

      Also

      The SPIRITUAL COURT recommended he not be reinstated. I mean… C’mon!

      Oy vey.

      1. Really… according to the article … Fr. Makris …and at the request of his parishioners …is still serving the lord on Sunday! Apparently,,, TNH…has failed to update you and I guess they had a change of heart ..after spiritual meditation!

        Don’t worry Wayne…I am sure .. Fr. Makris ..knows that the Spiritual court of our lord .. is ultimately the judge of his actions ..if true and rises to a level ..of incurred justice!

        All you Righteous hypocrites … who quote from the bible passage ..to support your guilty decisions ..and keep in mind …not those of the people … unless you think TNH and the New YOrk Post ..are the certified representative of the Greek Orthodox Faithful …. would never even get to trial or grand jury for consideration based on the fact …that he had relationship with two women … who if I need to remind you … is probably doing better than you ever!

  13. Dear ARCHO,

    Marry Christmass,

    And best of luck with the current State and Federal Investigations on you and Saint Nick. With the U.S. Governments, 90% conviction rate and your TEXT, PRINT, EMAIL and CELL records handed over must read like a Horror Story. Well at least we fianlly get to find out now where all the missing money went.

    PS.
    “i would highly recommend they hire a Nice Jewish lawyer” …Funny I would recommend Greek ones. You know the ones Suing the ARCHO now. So many to choose from. The ARCHO can’t even build one Church let alone 10 more. I would recommend you go to “Father” Makris therapist and see if the ARCHO has a group discount plan.

    Ephesians 5:11 “Take no part in the unfruitful works of darkness, but instead expose them.”

  14. In case anyone is wondering… From today’s epistle.

    “Brethren, walk as children of light (for the fruit of light is found in all that is good and right and true), and try to learn what is pleasing to the Lord. Take no part in the unfruitful works of darkness, but instead expose them.”

  15. Thank for the tip… but I know how the Secret Society of our government works … because Spartacus…i personally ,,,know you and your fraudulent and dangerous Greek Secret Society of Ahepan Mason operate …no differently!

    i WOULD BE MORE CONCERNED IF ii WAS YOU… IF THE ORTHODOX CHURCH TOOK MY ADVISE … AND FILED A DEFAMATION SUIT AGAINST TNH FOR THEIR COMPLICITY IN THE DEFAMATION OF FATHER MAKRIS … WHO IS CURRENTLY PRACTICING ON DEMAND OF HIS PARISHIONERS THE PRINCIPLE OF THE GREEK ORTHODOX CHURCH ….AND TO MY KNOWLEDGE HAS NOT BEEN CHARGED OR INDICTED FOR ANY FELONIES …LIKE THOSE BY sENATOR ROBERT MENENDEZ OF NEW jERSEY …AND MEMBER OF THE AHEPA MASONS…WHICH TNH ..PROMOTED AND ENDORSED!

    CAN YOU IMAGINE THAT … YOUR POSTS DEMONSTRATE COMPLICITY AND ACTUAL EVIDENCE OF DEFAMATION OF THE CHARACTER OF FR. MAKRIS …WITH ANY SUPPORTING EVIDENCE …OTHER THAN THE FACT … HE HUGGED SOMEONE UNCOMFORTABLY…AND HAD THE AUDACITY TO HAVE RELATIONS WITH 2 WOMEN …WHO HAVE NEVER CONTACTED ANYBODY.!

    HEY SPARTACUS… WHY WOULDN’T YOU WANT A JEWISH LAWYER FROM THE JEWISH ANTI DEFAMATION LEAGUE ….WHO PROBABLY HAVE MORE EXPERIENCE THAN ANYBODY IN THE WORLD TO PROSECUTE TNH… AND YOU!

    WOW …WHEN YOU COMBINE WHAT THEY HAVE ALREADY FOR THE PAST TWO YEARS DONE TO ARCHBISHOP DEMITRIOUS AND NOW ADD …WHAT THEY HAVE DONE TO FR. MAKRIS …THIS IS A SLAM DUNK!…. I COULD PROBABLY WITH THIS CASE!

    In any case .. …I wish you and oll my fellow poster a Merry Christmas and Happy New Year! And as wacky as you may be… glad to see …you take the time to express your opinions right or wrong!

  16. One of the main reasons it is usual for parish priests to be married is to lessen temptations that priests, who are sinful persons like all of us, are liable to have living in the world. All these celibate priests in the GOA eventually become archimandrites when only abbots of monasteries, by tradition, are elevated to the rank of archimandrite.

    1. Silly Me…all along I thought you hate Fr. Makris because he allegedly sexually abused a women..by huggibg her … and you ……advise the readers…. that .only family members are allowed to be hugged by the Clergy!

      So ..If Fr. Makris.hugged and sexually abused his cousin or another member of his family…that would be alright …according to the Glory to America Evangelical followers of TNH and their Greek Secret society members!

      Silly me …now I understand …what pains you and the rest of the bible quoting jury of the Tammy Swaggert fan club…is that Fr. Makris admitted to having relationships with two women …who apparently… he felt compelled to tell the truth about …even though it had no relevance…to the accusations of a women… who alleged that Fr. Makris in hugging her …was perceived as inappropriate to her!

      None of these two women…who had relationships with him, felt threatened by him …and therefore …have never contacted anybody to complain!

      So I now understand and conclude …that your anger and outrage against Father Makris… is in admitting he had relationship with two women …which you have never had in your entire lives!…

      Of course, the idea of hugging a women must be foreign to you, …whether it be a child . a wife , girlfriend ,or family member…which was common practice …up to this demented generation …where the wrong word ..gets you publically indicted by the “Politically Correct ” news media!

      Silly me… this could have been much worst ..what if it had been two men …would you condemn him for hugging ..or cheer him on! The politically correct TNH and Media …would not dare print this story! I mean can you imagine the Gay Community …up in arms over a relationship with two men and a Christian priest! Wow… unacceptable to be having relations with there enemies!

      Silly me…I will pray for you and your fellow deprived members of this posting site.

      1. Oh, come on. Did you fail or pass reading comprehension in grade school? That’s a big jump from hugging/embracing to sexual abuse. You are insulting in the extreme. Read my post carefully without injecting your bias into it.
        Where did you ever get the idea I hate Fr. Makris? I happen to know him and, quite truthfully found it hard to believe when I first heard of this. But my opinion doesn’t matter. The only thing that matters involves Fr. Makris, the nuns, the findings of the spiritual court and how the hierarchy chose to deal with the situation, or, apparently, not deal with it.
        And what’s this nonsense about my not having hugged a woman, etc.? My dear friend, I have worked in the mental health field for decades and I get very uneasy reading a post such as yours that’s all over the map, making unfounded accusations, casting aspersions, making ludicrous assumptions, etc. Your rambling is very telling.
        And let me tell you, I’m about as far removed from the evangelical understanding of the faith as anyone you will ever meet, including yourself.

      2. To Repanidi, Kelly, Koukla and the alleged personal friends and lovers of Fr. Makris and the Orthodox Church !

        While I resent your personal representation of my defense of Father Makris as insane, bias, and a danger to society, I can assure you …. it give me no greater pleasure …than to join the other defenders of Father Makris and the church … and be in the same company as …no other than …The Parishioners, Board Members , Sunday School teachers , Philoptohos , and PTO members of the Greek Orthodox Holy Cross parish of Brooklyn ….WHO ARE THE ONLY ONES AUTHORIZED TO REINSTATE FATHER MAKRIS., FROM A SUSPENSION WHICH IS NORMAL PROTOCAL ..JUST LIKE THE POLICE DEPARTMENT …WHEN THEIR IS QUESTIONABLE CONDUCT IN DOING THEIR DUTIES RELATING TO AN INCIDENT! He was never banned from the Orthodox Church …only suspended! Which means … right or wrong…he would have to comply with therapy protocal …like concusion protocal by football players …even if they have not suffered a head injury! Behold .. he was cleared …there was no problem with Fr. Makris..and declared fit to return to the service of the lord! However… I know how ..you are a victim of incoherent letters and articles …so read it again!

        You see… the parishioners pay his salary …not the Archdiocese! Have you ever heard the Word “AXIOS” by the parishioners when they discuss the credibility of the priest they pay for …it is called Worthy! They also pay for the church and its expenses!

        Apparently, REPANIDI 1908….they know Fr. Makris better than you or me… and, unlike you and your vigilante mob and hate group of the Church and its clergy, on the contrary …they are having a relationship with Fr. Makris …which they wish to continue …since, as Fr. Christopher fully highlighted….He REALLY IS A GREAT GUY!

        You, Kelly , Koukla , Spartacus….should try to read the article in the New York Post so you would have seen this before you called me, fr Christopher , Fr. Makris and the parishioners and board of the Holy Cross parish…LUNATICS AS FOLLOWS: AND WHY THE ALLEGED WAR MONGER FATHER ANTONIS REINSTATED FR. MAKRIS!

        “We were informed that the parishioners felt so strongly that they would protest in front of the Archdiocese for the return of their priest,” he said.

        Kelly, koukla , Rapanidi , lower manhattan , spartacus…stop hiding like cowards ….and come out of your closets … and demonstrate your complete outrage in front of the Holy cross parish on Christmas eve… and let them know what kind of lunatics they are …and why your vigilante mob has come to their church …to protest and bring justice to Fr. Matris ! And tell them …that TNH and the Creek Secret societies have sent you ..and aroused you …probably for the first time in your lives …to stand up for truth , Justice …and the Hillary Clinton way!

        I wonder how you will be recieved by the lunatics of the Holy Cross Church !

        Just think…maybe Fr. Antonis …will try to change his mind ..in the face of possible Protest by the Righteous Vigilante group ..who would hang a priest based on inappropriate behavior defined by the holiest men on earth… but would be considered by U.S laws representing totally appropriate behavior! We will never know …will we!

        This is the last post on this article from Michael Gianakos ..wherever ..you are!

        However…To all the Michael Gianakos”S of the world … and Google ..while these angels of purity..have demeaned OUR NAME .. IN THE SPIRIT OF THE SEASON ..LET US PRAY FOR THEM … AND HOPE SOMEONE HUGS THEM THIS CHRISTMAS …AND WISH THE PARISHIONERS OF HOLY CROSS ….A MERRY CHRISTMAS AND A HAPPY NEW YEAR…ALWAYS THINK WITH YOUR HEART BECAUSE THAT IS WHERE WE ARE CLOSEST TO GOD … AND NOT FROM WHAT I OR ANY OF MY FELLOW BROTHERS ON THIS PAGE!

      3. Michael, I’ve formed a committee to ask you some questions, please:

        1. Do you own or keep any guns?

        2. Have you seen a mental health professional in the last 90 days?

        3. Do you hear voices inside of you telling you what to do?

        4. Do you abuse alcohol or controlled prescription or nonprescription medications?

        5. Have ever tried to harm yourself?

        Please answer this 5 questions and please provide the name of your AHEPA Chapter and MASONIC GRAND LODGE.

        Lastly, what is the status of your subscription to TNH and are you a dues paying member of any church other than Jehovah’s Witnesses?

  17. The post by Fr. Xanthos makes me sick! More proof of how the Ephraimite issue has hurt the Church. We watch them defend each other, to the detriment of the Faith. No wonder our beloved Parishes are empting out.

    1. Do you think the Archbishop, Bishop Andonios and other members of the hierarchy are Ephraimites? This way of dealing with scandal in the church existed long before the Ephraimite phenomenon.

      1. Quick question to anyone on this thread who actually know Michael Giannakos—is it true that he is deeply involved with the Boy Scouts? If that’s true, we should all be concerned based on what we’ve all seen here.

      2. It would not shock me one bit that Michael Giannakos is “deeply involved in the BOY Scouts. I am sure his above ramblings will wind up in some form of evidence in a court case. He should not be around kids that is for sure, but a perfect fit for the current chruch leadership. Someone needs to send his comments to his Scout Chapter, because he his truly disturbed and not stable.

      3. I do not think that the Archbishop, Bishop Andonios and other members of the hierarchy are Ephraimites. I do think that some of them are complicit in allowing this to get to this point. In Kalmoukos’ article entitled: “Analysis: Another Embarrassment” he states as follows: “Just like Passias – Makris was once Passias’ spiritual son, as a number of priests have told The National Herald – Makris also appeared to be a pious and “philanthropic” priest – pretending to be spiritual, whatever the term “spirituality” means anymore.” So defrocked Passias was the “spiritual father” of Makris, Makris is the “spiritual father” of “Presbyter” Christopher Xanthos. Of course Xanthos writes this letter, which I find deceitful and duplicitous. Right here and right now there is ample evidence of the network of Ephraimites who will say anything, no matter the consequences of their deceitfulness in defense of one another to the detriment of the Faithful.

  18. I am disturbed by the viciousness of this train of responses, and the reactions of all involved.

    Allegations of sexual abuse and inappropriate behavior are made throughout, yet the detail I see are allegations of “hugging” perhaps too long.

    There are implications, but nothing more, of more serious charges but if they are there, are not revealed.

    Is this all a visceral reaction to the Justice Kavanaugh dispute, whether pro or against?

    If hugging a member of the opposite sex, not related, is sinful, then I sin almost every day.

    I understand Coptic monastics in Egypt will no talk to you unless they hold your hands in theirs. Can we call this an unwanted gesture? Is human contact sinful?

    As to the judgement of the church court, they resolved to reinstate Fr. Makris, but not at his old parish.

    The demand (which it was) to return him to Holy Cross in Brooklyn came overwhelmingly from the parishioners (the people), against the objections of the Archdiocese, not the Church.

    The Church in my understanding are the people, not the Bishops, nor the Sisters.

    If anyone has proof (not rumor) of the details of the accusations of “sexual misconduct”, I would be pleased to know, for me and others to render an informed opinion, rather than making false assumptions.

    We must remember in our church how the that many of the greatest figures were attacked by the hierarchy: Just a few are

    St. John Chrysostomos
    St. Simeon the New Theologian
    St. Nektarios – Metropolitan of Pentapolis and Wonderworker of Aegina

    I think we all need wisdom and with the help of God, discernment.

    1. These “real Orthodox” as opposed to us average parishioners are the ones who are going to sink the ship. We are swimming in a Sea of S*** and sinking fast—and all these holier than thou types are oblivious. They can’t get out of the own way to see the truth and the dirty clean up that needs doing.

    2. Do you not believe that the Spiritual Court , informed by the Holy Spirit, is sufficient to make these determinations? You know, according to the canons of the Church? Because they did.It is amazing to me that all of the apologists here are happy to speculate and ignore the simple facts that we do know.

      The lack of critical thinking and the willful ignorance expressed here is amazing. So, just know that if and when this man acts on his passions again, against your flock, it is on those of you who refused to see.

  19. Fr Makris is according to me an Excellent Priest and a Gift from God to us Christians !

    I personally have no proof for his innocence but at the same time I haven’t seen any evidence of his guilt either !!
    …….
    Father Christopher Xanthos is ,

    A Marine ,
    A Veteran , somebody who out his life in the line for us all !!
    A Highly Educated Invividual with True Devotion to our Faith and Church
    A loving father , husband , son and brother to his family !
    A GREAT SPIRITUAL LEADER AND PRIEST for his community !!

    Before you talk about him do two things :
    Think about who you’re talking !
    Use facts and proofs .

    Have the decency to present your identity .

    That’s the honest way to do things !

    I have nothing else to add (atm )

    1. Reading his letter to the editor he sounds like a medieval whack job. No sane priest would publish a letter like that. Glad I am not in his parish.

      1. You don’t deserve to be in his parish!

        All you know to do is spitting poison on a person that you can’t reach his morale status or look at him in the eye !

        Like a coward you’re hiding behind a keyboard and speak with a DISGUSTING MANOR AND TONE !

        Father Christopher Xanthos is an Amazing Person that you should be thanking for everything he has offered to us and everything that he is offering to our church .

        But it seems to me that my words are a waste of time .

        Since I am speaking to Coward with a disgusting soul full of hate .

    2. All of these people, who are defending the indefensible sound like Ephraimites. Their methods require them to assault the truth! Read these posts. Understand there is a methodology to defending the guilty and “packaging” them by comparing them to past saints and early church fathers. This is the same way they defended the now defrocked Fr. George Pasias. They could care less what the facts are or the findings of the spiritual court. It’s all about tribalism and defending one of their own. This network of ultra orthodox fundamentalists are destroying our church

  20. Ok, so we have this whole big group of people saying that this is all one big misunderstanding and that it was just a misinterpreted hug. I noticed that in the first TNH article upon Fr. Gerasimos’ return to his community he is in a photo where he is in a full contact embrace with a woman at the Philoptochos luncheon that followed Divine Liturgy. Would a man who was pulled from his parish and sent counseling over a “hug” even think of hugging a woman in such a close physical way on his first day back? No. Unless what got him in trouble was more than a hug.Think about it.

  21. If the parishioners of the community knew exactly what happened, they would not have supported his return nor signed the petition that members of the parish council were shamelessly passing around. The parish council and president were not forthright with the information and was downplaying the incident. The priest admitted to this sexual misconduct and the spiritual court was disturbed from the findings that they recommended he not return. The Archdiocese did not want to believe the nuns nor what happened because Makris is held in high regard by the Archbishop and is the spiritual father of the Archdeacon. The parish was desperate for him to come back because they are suffering financially. Those that support him are cult-like and support him blindly.

  22. If any of us can claim we are without sin, by all means, continue with the criticism. If not, repent and stop judging others.

    <> John 8:2-11

    1. Amen! Stop judging these women who coutrageously and discretely went to the church for their concerns. Stop berating and judging the faithful who say it is incorrect for the Archdiocese to ignore sexual misconduct and the ruling of the Spiritual Court.

      “Behold, I am sending you out as sheep in the midst of wolves, so be wise as serpents and innocent as doves.”

      1. A lot of these respondents are like the Catholics who covered up the priest criminality for decades with one excuse after another and scripture quotes while children were being buggered and women molested. They are enablers and accessories to crime. Plain and simple.

  23. Here are some points to consider:
    1) For 10 plus years Father Gerasimos Makris consistently helped build the church, helped both male, female, young and old with issues ranging from spiritual to psychological to economical, out of his own pocket-including paying for funerals, establishing a community outreach program, he visited the sick often at hospitals went on midnight runs to prepare food and distribute food to the homeless of NYC/ Bowery and other areas, he helped build the same convent out in Long Island where the two nuns lived and worked as their spiritual father, helped build a school, helped other churches and monasteries, started many youth programs for young , older and adult members, supported community, state and national issues, supported and visited the poor and faithful in Greece, Constantinople and Jerusalem while not taking a single dime (he has refused a house, a car, donated a car back to the church that he had won in a raffle and routinely gives all of his time and monies to the church while refusing any tips (unlike other clergy who demand a minimum tip or otherwise) etc…
    2) Consider after 10 years at the Brooklyn Parish he was placed third in a ballot for a Metropolitan position by his Archdiocesan peers for their high regard towards his work even though “his hat was not in the race to begin with”–this served as a concern for many in the inner circle clique of the Archdiocese.
    3) There was no mention of any behavior or operational improprieties until the beginning of 2018-this include his time at the Holy Cross College. Yet when this “scandal blew up” all the issues came out at once. No one knew anything for 10-15 years….?
    4)*While he himself “accepted” that he did something wrong/inappropriate according to the vows of his cloth it was never mentioned that he had illicit sexual affairs with multiple women as published with innuendo in the NY POST or other trash tabloids. Yes there are many forms of sexual abuse but ultimately the who’s and the how’s were left to be examined by the Church Court. He then admitted his wrong doing, went through the process, went to a “church sponsored program”- an exiling while working UNDER THE DIRECTION OF THE ARCHDIOCESE to pay the price of his wrong doing. Yes everyone is concerned for both sides, including the “victims” if all facts on “both” sides are actually true. No allegations were brought up against him by the nuns or others (who frequented HC and other churches often-but only nice words were shared about their “relationships”). Now ultimately it is only God who know the exact truth and i will place my faith on Him to pass judgement and sentence not the NY POST or accusers who may not be telling the truth
    5) The NY POST reported Father Makris as “imperious’ who demands that adults and children alike kiss his hand in subservience as if he is a ruthless self-absorbed king rather than understanding or knowing that it is the job of the priest to teach the flock the traditions of the church without mandate or force-Father Makris himself has said countless time when you kiss the hand or robe of the priest it is not that you are kissing the hand of the priest rather than showing respect and love to the Church and Christ. Again not mandated or demanded just explained. What will they say next-that fasting is a barbaric punishment reserved for sinners-or Baptism is a torture-it is far too easy to throw rocks in this day and age from the outside.
    6) The Archdiocese recently played a horrible game of “its not my fault” and specifically the Archdiocesan Chancellor Bishop Andonios of Phasiane and his cronies who kept the parish in the dark of what was truly going on for almost a year. In this short NY Post article written by Michelle Weiss the Bishop shares more with the writer in less than a day than he did with the parish of Holy Cross in a year. He also went into detail about his “treatment” which I am pretty sure is legally confidential and covered by Hippa regulations. During this time they sent another priest, his godson, also involved with non-payment scandal of the Ionian Village, to keep tabs on the community while espousing “I’m just passing through” and yet reminding the flock that church belongs to know one.
    7) It is to be considered and I believe as accurate that Father Makris is and was a part of a conspiracy to discredit him publically given his rise to public notice within the Archdiocese threatening the status quo. Similarly a few local business-community-politically-Archdiocese- connected-parishioners working with the Archdiocese were accused of having some interest in the fall of Father Makris as it would support the Archdiocese and add clout and benefit to them within the church and community.
    8) It was recently written in the TNH that the nuns left the monastery for a while but it was also mentioned that they were recently sending letters out through their attorneys to come to some financial agreement with the Archdiocese.
    9) The Archdiocese in the NY Post article makes it sound that the Brooklyn HC community asked for these problems by saying-we wanted him out but you wanted him back. The community of Holy Cross acknowledges that some wrongdoing took place. Yes, it is a Church court-trial took place, judgement was rendered and we forgive him but have not forgotten. Ultimately Father Makris will show the type of person he is not by what is said but by his actions.
    10) It should also be noted that the Archdiocese sent the community of Holy Cross two scandal ridden priests who ultimately failed the Holy Cross Parish and were sent away in shame see Poulos and Passias.
    11) This situation has undoubtedly affected the community and its heart breaking to hear from many who are either disappointed against the Archdiocese given the years and multiple examples of poor staffing, administrative failures, public embarrassment for St. Nicholas Ground Zero Projects or just because the rise of secularism and the attacks on the Church worsen as time goes by as prophesied.
    In this time of Christmas and for all involved I offer a wish of healing and “peace on earth and goodwill towards men” and hope things improve for all involved and all throughout the world.
    Sincerely
    T. Chrysostomou

    1. @T. Chrysostomou-Suggestion: Step 1. Re-read the articles and Bishop Antonios’ letter.
      Step 2. Use your God-given critical thinking.
      Step 3. Write something that is comprehenable.
      Then we can all have a Merry Christmas!

    2. A conspiracy theory? Really? Your ignorance of how victims process through their trauma and build the courage to come forward over time is obvious here, among other things.
      If you want to talk about all the “wonderful” things Makris has done for the Church as a way to bolster a defense of his character, how about doing the same for the sweet nuns who were victimized? Do you have any idea about their credibility or contributions to the Church? Or do you just not care?
      Tell you what, how about we believe women for once?

  24. This is similar to what we see in domestic violence cases. The abuser demonizes the abused, thereby keeping the cycle of abuse alive.

    I want to offer my love and support to the nuns who were sexually abused by an evil priest. Fr. Makris threatened to send the nuns to Greece in order to learn how real nuns are to behave? If that’s how monasticism is in Greece, than I don’t want to go there. Teaching people to go against conscience, reason and truth, is exceedingly evil and cultic. And those ethically compromised laity who wanted Fr. Makris reinstated, are warped individuals. The Bible condemns justifying the wicked. (see verses below). And that warped individual who defended Fr. Makris is in need of serious spiritual and psychological healing. What we see occurring here is classic cultism. “They are never to criticize a leader, but criticize themselves instead.” (Hassan, Combatting Cult Mind Control,” p. 64). The “spiritual child” of Fr. Makris may also be suffering from thought reform and the Stockholm Syndrome.

    There are many clergy today who should be deposed, but are not. It is a sin to preserve and protect wicked leaders. Some relevant biblical verses:

    “Acquitting the guilty and condemning the innocent– the LORD detests them both.” (Proverbs 17:15).

    “It is surely not good to punish the innocent or to beat a noble for his honesty.” (Proverbs 17:26).

    “Showing partiality to the wicked is not good, nor is depriving the innocent of justice.” (Proverbs 18:5).

    “Whoever tells the guilty, “You are innocent”–peoples will curse him, and nations will denounce him;” (Proverbs 24:24).

    “Woe to those who call evil good and good evil.” (Isaiah 5:20).

    Lying and protecting clergy at all cost is, priest-craft. It is Roman Catholic and Kabbalistic. The reason so many “Orthodox” people protect and defend morally and ethically compromised clergy, is because they have been programmed and conditioned to do so. They have no sense of honor. American solders are taught to never abandon their wounded in the field. These “Orthodox” people not only do the opposite, but they persecute and demonize the wounded.

    The Roman Catholic “Saint” Alfonsus Ligouri taught in his “Moral Theology” that lying to protect clergy in court is permitted. I believe some of these Orthodox clergy have been influenced by the Vatican, or may even be Jesuit infiltrators. This may be why there is so much corruption in the modern Orthodox world.

    The theology of lying, cover-ups and protecting wicked priests explains why Pope John Paul II did not appropriately deal with the clergy involved in child molesting. Pope John Paul II granted to Cardinal Bernard Law, a notorious facilitator of child-molesting priests in Massachusetts, safe haven in Vatican City from criminal prosecution. He also colluded with other child-molestation facilitators.

    “Never attack superiors before inferiors.” (Ignatius Loyola, Spiritual Exercises of 1548, Rule 10).

    The “sacred person” concept of the priest is Roman Catholic and is taught in traditional seminaries that the Kabbalistic heresy that the souls of priests are of a higher order than that of the laity, contravening the anti-kabbalistic teaching of Christ (Matt. 20:24-26). “Father” must be protected at all costs, (Ignatius Loyola) including suppression of police and media investigations. Here there is a parallel with rabbinic doctrine concerning informants. In Orthodox Judaism, those who turn a molester-rabbi over to the police are “masor, mesirah.” According to the Jewish Encyclopedia of 1906, “Nothing was more severely punished by the Jews…the sages of the Talmud compared the “moser” to a serpent.”

    St. Augustine was against all forms of lying, even “white lies,’ as any God-fearing Christian would be.

    The end-justifies-the-means mentality, is unscriptural and ungodly.

  25. This is similar to what we see in domestic violence cases. The abuser demonizes the abused, thereby keeping he cycle of abuse alive.

    I want to offer my love and support to the nuns who were sexually abused by an evil priest. Fr. Makris threatened to send the nuns to Greece in order to learn how real nuns are to behave? If that’s how monasticism is in Greece, than I don’t want to go there. Teaching people to go against conscience, reason and truth, is exceedingly evil and cultic. And those ethically compromised laity who wanted Fr. Makris reinstated, are warped individuals. The Bible condemns justifying the wicked. (see verses below). And that warped individual who defended Fr. Makris is in need of serious spiritual and psychological healing. What we see occurring here is classic cultism. “They are never to criticize a leader, but criticize themselves instead.” (Hassan, Combatting Cult Mind Control,” p. 64). The “spiritual child” of Fr. Makris may also be suffering from thought reform and the Stockholm Syndrome.

    There are many clergy today who should be deposed, but are not. It is a sin to preserve and protect wicked leaders. Some relevant biblical verses:

    “Acquitting the guilty and condemning the innocent– the LORD detests them both.” (Proverbs 17:15).

    “It is surely not good to punish the innocent or to beat a noble for his honesty.” (Proverbs 17:26).

    “Showing partiality to the wicked is not good, nor is depriving the innocent of justice.” (Proverbs 18:5).

    “Whoever tells the guilty, “You are innocent”–peoples will curse him, and nations will denounce him;” (Proverbs 24:24).

    “Woe to those who call evil good and good evil.” (Isaiah 5:20).

    Lying and protecting clergy at all cost is, priest-craft. It is Roman Catholic and Kabbalistic. The reason so many “Orthodox” people protect and defend morally and ethically compromised clergy, is because they have been programmed and conditioned to do so. They have no sense of honor. American solders are taught to never abandon their wounded in the field. These “Orthodox” people not only do the opposite, but they persecute and demonize the wounded.

    The Roman Catholic “Saint” Alfonsus Ligouri taught in his “Moral Theology” that lying to protect clergy in court is permitted. I believe some of these Orthodox clergy have been influenced by the Vatican, or may even be Jesuit infiltrators. This may be why there is so much corruption in the modern Orthodox world.

    The theology of lying, cover-ups and protecting wicked priests explains why Pope John Paul II did not appropriately deal with the clergy involved in child molesting. Pope John Paul II granted to Cardinal Bernard Law, a notorious facilitator of child-molesting priests in Massachusetts, safe haven in Vatican City from criminal prosecution. He also colluded with other child-molestation facilitators.

    “Never attack superiors before inferiors.” (Ignatius Loyola, Spiritual Exercises of 1548, Rule 10).

    The “sacred person” concept of the priest is Roman Catholic and is taught in traditional seminaries that the Kabbalistic heresy that the souls of priests are of a higher order than that of the laity, contravening the anti-kabbalistic teaching of Christ (Matt. 20:24-26). “Father” must be protected at all costs, (Ignatius Loyola) including suppression of police and media investigations. Here there is a parallel with rabbinic doctrine concerning informants. In Orthodox Judaism, those who turn a molester-rabbi over to the police are “masor, mesirah.” According to the Jewish Encyclopedia of 1906, “Nothing was more severely punished by the Jews…the sages of the Talmud compared the “moser” to a serpent.”

    St. Augustine was against all forms of lying, even “white lies,’ as any God-fearing Christian would be.

    The end-justifies-the-means mentality, is unscriptural and ungodly.

  26. Suggestion to all. Since you appear to know what it means to be a priest, why don’t you get ordained and show us how it’s done.

    1. @Anonymous-If becoming a priest would solve the issue of Makris’ impropriety, I’m sure many of us here would get in the ordination line…well, that is if we are the right gender!

    2. @anonymous:

      I have not seen people on this thread criticizing priests or the priesthood. I think it is appropriate and necessary for the faithful to voice their concerns when they believe the leaders in the Church are behaving in a manner that hurts the flock as a whole. If this were not the case, we would not celebrate the beautiful Sunday of Orthodoxy.

      For the most part the people on this thread lamenting the actions of the Archdiocese have been respectful and have simply put forth the facts, while those who support fr makris and fr Xanthos have resorted to name-calling, willfully ignoring the facts, and conspiracy theories.
      Here’s the conspiracy:
      Fr makris admitted to inappropriate relations of a sexual nature in a meeting (not a Spiritual Court) at the Archdiocese. He was suspended (and possibly sent to counseling). A Spiritual Court was convened shortly before he was placed back into his former parish. The Spiritual Court decided that he should not be reassigned to Holy Cross. The Archdiocese placed him back anyway.

      I do not believe that these actions are defensible. Not only are they harmful to the victims, they potentially expose others to one priest who has admitted to this particular passion. No parish should be able to potentially expose the larger community to this type of behavior.

    3. We do at least know that sexual assault and spiritual abuse are not part of the priesthood. But those who support Makris and Xanthos don’t seem to know that. So I’d say we’re already a step ahead.

  27. Bottom line: this is not the path of healing…for anyone. So I am left wondering what do those accusers truly desire?

    People (under the misleading trap of the personal ego) resort to social media often seeking:
    1. Attention and 2. Revenge.

    Both quite ugly qualities but tricks of sin. Why air your business for the whole world to see? To see how many “likes” you get for your cause?

    It IS possible to confront uncomfortable conduct and find healing through the Sacrament of confession for all involved. If no crimes have been committed, no police involved, there is no reason to defrock or defame either side. Seek forgiveness.

    Why, would supposed spiritual nuns not follow that recipe for healing? Find a good spiritual father/or holy gerontissa. Revenge is not healing. Nor will arguing on the internet. Ultimately, this should have been privately healed and because TNH desires attention as well, I believe God will judge them for inciting hatred amongst His holy ekklisia.

    1. @MomforHealing—
      I’m left wondering how much of a mother’s heart you actually have when it is full of so much assumption and judgment. Sounds like you need to take your own advice and seek forgiveness. Don’t assume you understand just because you assume you see. The “ekklesia” deserves better than the corruption of its leaders and the judgement of people like you.

    2. @mom for healing:

      Can’t heal a sickness until the tumor is excised. Furthermore, recall that Christ overturned the tables of the money changers when His temple was being defiled.

      I’m shocked that you would suggest that the victims (not accusers as you called them, since Fr Makris admitted to sexual misconduct) should be quiet.

  28. When I go to church, any church, I never go because I like or dislike the messenger. I go to hear the message, which in our Christian Orthodox Church never changes. It is only delivered to us by a messenger or a teacher , and sometimes not one of our favorite teachers in a group of many teachers, Which are our priests. I personally know many great priests , who also have many faults which I am in no position to judge because my faults are far worst than theirs. I don’t know what goes on in any persons heart except those very close to me and I don’t personally know either one of these priests. We have many good priests among us, and many horrible human beings disguised as priests as well. And we were warned of this by Saint Kosmas Aetolos “ beware of the wolf disguised in sheep’s clothing”. When Satan corrupts a lay person , he takes 1 soul, when he corrupts a priest , he takes 1000! And he has us all arguing and bickering and judging these 2 men who at least 1 of them apparently has a dark side but not dark enough to put in the category of raping children or being a gay priest. And people will leave the faith because of this. It sounds like he’s a player who likes to have relationships with many women and it’s all ok with them as well until the relationships go sour or maybe one woman is jealous of the other one. Is he a predator or a rapist? If so why isn’t he locked up? Is he a great teacher? Does he deliver the message of the gospel to his pupils? Did we all love our teachers in school when we went.? I hated almost all of mine but I remember a lot of the material they taught. Single Priests aren’t allowed to date because they are men and took an oath to the church and when they do they are persecuted but the rest of us can date and have affairs and cheat and we get to keep our jobs and make money and if we’re good “players” we’ re looked up to and admired. And we still claim to be great Christians, and we get to judge priests when they fall because we never took the oath they did before God because we already know we’re gonna screw it up!
    If Fr. Makris is a crook stealing from his church, if he’s a rapist, if he’s a child molestor, a drug addict or a drunk, or overly aggressive with women than remove him. If he’s just being a man who likes to date multiple women without committing and still wants to preach Gods word , stop the judgement and let it go.

  29. I’m just sitting here, shaking my head. What kind of upside down world are we living in that a priest who has had multiple inappropriate relationships with women has been returned to the same parish, if any parish at all? These relationships were abuses of power as much as they were sexual in nature. In what world does the Archdiocese indulge this blind cult of personality rather than adhering to the conclusions of the Spiritual Court? Why doesn’t the Archdiocese and the leadership of the community want a new priest to be assigned who can cultivate a healthy, thriving community where the central focal point is Christ and not the priest?? Some of the people wanted him back? Children also want ice cream for dinner. Feeding the homeless? News flash, lots of NYC parishes go on regular, scheduled Midnight Runs.
    If after the 12 years of ministry that Fr. Makris was at Holy Cross, this is the mentality of the majority of the community, Fr. Makris failed the community long before these events. He failed in his teaching ministry to teach people how to differentiate basic right from wrong. To not be appalled when people are victimized, especially nuns who are dependent on their Spiritual father and the good will of others to survive. I weep for the Church.

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