Ecumenical Patriarchate Granting Autocephaly to Orthodox Church in the Ukraine

His All Holiness Ecumenical Patriarch Bartholomew who initiated the historic decision of the Holy Synod. (AP Photo/Lefteris Pitarakis, File)

CONSTANTINOPLE (ANA/A. Robopoulos) – The Ecumenical Patriarchate has begun proceedings to give autonomous status to the Orthodox Church in the Ukraine, it announced on Friday.

“It is announced that in the context of the decision to grant autocephalous status to the Orthodox Church in the Ukraine, it has named as representatives in Kiev Archbishop Daniel of Pamphilon of the Ukrainian Orthodox Church in the USA and Bishop Hilarion (Rudnyk) of Edmonton of the Western Eparchy of the Ukrainian Orthodox Church of Canada.”

Both churches the clerics belong to are directly affiliated with the Ecumenical Patriarchate.

16 Comments

  1. Old Bart has disgusted me in the past but this takes the cake. He presides over an empty dead church in a city devoid of a flock, but is going and interfering against the canons in the canonical territory or Russia. Sadly bloodshed may follow this obscene move.

    I have never been more embarrassed to be a part of the GOA. Anaxios Bartholomew!!

  2. As if we needed more enemies ! One more thing to piss of Russia. Trust me they will now have Turkey squeeze the Patriarch more than ever before.

    1. With his rending the seamless cloak of Christ for his own gain, I hope Turkey does squeeze the Patriarch. He has it coming. It would have been better for this wretched man that the Turks would have hung him from his own gate as they did to one of his predecessors that that he endorse schismatics over the lawful and canonical Church in Ukraine. There is a report that the corrupt Ukrainian parliament send millions to Constantinople to prod this action. I wonder if it was thirty million pieces of silver? Bartholomew should resign and then kneel before Patriarch Kyrill and beg forgiveness for this criminal and corrupt act.

    2. Please dont forget that Russia looks after their own iterests what most Greeks forget is that during the Greco Turko war in the 1920’s Lenin assisted Kemal Attaturk in his war by supplying weapons gold and money. As you know over a million Armenian christians died Greeks of Pondos Smyrna and Constantinople were slaughted .After about 3000 years greeks of asia minor were ethnically clensed with the help of your so called russian friends. Today Kirill is boycotting the ecumenical orthodox council which he did not attend in 2016 this man has nothing to do with orthodoxy.

      1. Lenin….uh, what did he do to the Russian Orthodox Church again?

        Until Lenin took over, Russia was fighting on the side of Greece. It was Russia who forced the EP to grant autocephaly to Greece when it threw off the Turkish yoke, and it was the Russian Grand Duchess Olga who brought Orthodoxy into the royal family (previously Vatican Latins and Protestants).

        If the Phanar goes on with this rash act, Abp. Ieronymos and the Holy Synod of Greece should take the opportunity and abrogate the agreement with the schismatic Phanar over the New Lands and Crete, and translate those bishops to the Church of Greece.

    1. Schism indeed! Caused by the heretical and schismatic Ecumenical Patriarch. Shame!! Embarrassing to be a Greek-American today!

  3. The Russians will have their revenge, this is about money, land, churches and control. It’s not about Christ, despite all the theology expounded by the Russophiles and their church. This is Putin not wanting to lose his grip on Ukraine.

    I noted that Kyrill, the Russian Patriarch, (who like his predecessors, acts only like the chaplain to the Czar or the Kremlin’s boss and also is historically tied into the state’s intelligence apparatus), recently “paid a visit” to the Phanar. This was to deliver a “message”. These guys are thugs, not holy men.

    Bart, who has little security and who needs to be aware that Erdogan will do the Russian bidding, should fear for his safety. This stuff is in a whole different league and it has nothing to to with Christ.

    Remember my warning.

  4. The Russians will have their revenge, this is about money, land, churches and control. It’s not about Christ, despite all the theology expounded by the Russophiles and their church. This is Putin not wanting to lose his grip on Ukraine.

    I noted that Kyrill, the Russian Patriarch, (who like his predecessors, acts only like the chaplain to the Czar or the Kremlin’s boss and also is historically tied into the state’s intelligence apparatus), recently “paid a visit” to the Phanar. This was to deliver a “message”. These guys are thugs, not holy men.

    Bart, who has little security and who needs to be aware that Erdogan will do the Russian bidding, should fear for his safety. This stuff is in a whole different league and it has nothing to to with Christ.

    Remember my warning.

    1. Until the last couple of years, relations between Constantinople and Moscow had
      greatly improved. Russian Bishops were presented for the divine liturgy at the
      Monastery of Panagia Soumela in Trebizond betweeen 2010 and 2015, and Russian
      Bishops were present at liturgies presided by Patriarch Bartholomew in Cappadocia.

      I do not believe the Russians intend any harm to Patriarch Bartholomew or any other
      Orthodox hierarch. The fact is that Ukraine is the canonical territory of Moscow.
      The schismatics led by the preudo Patriarch Filaret Denisenko are not recognized by
      any Orthodox Churches and the schismatics have engaged in a wave of violence
      against the canonical Ukrainian Churches.

      The latest news indicates the Ecumenical Patriarch will “grant” autocephaly to the
      Skopjan Church which is part of the Serbian Church. There is another disaster and
      of course Constantinople has been angering the Church of Greece with its
      Claims in Nothern Greece.

      The whole situation can be defused if Constantinople reverses itself, apologizes, and
      vows not to interfere in Ukraine again.

      1. Old Bart is too arrogant and greedy for that. I am sure he has already spent the thirty million pieces of silver which Ukraine’s corrupt government gave him to interfere.

  5. You guys have it all wrong! Are you or-Moscow Patriarchate? Everyone KNOWS that the Kievan Church IS the daughter church of Constantinople and NOT Moscow! Thus, it is Patriarcha Bartholemew’s RIGHT to grant this autocephaly! And as for “pissing off” the Russians,
    what about THEM upsetting the world by their Nazi-styule takeover of independent and sovreign nations such as Crimea, Easter Ukraine and the independent Republic of Georgia. The world seems not to care if Russia gobbles up these countries litle by little as Hitler did! Will we sit back and be siletn as Putin & his mobsters dominate the wolrd political scene snd then influence Orthodox Church “politics”
    as well. Are we Orthodox of America SO afraid of “pissing off” the
    Russians SO much???? First, please get your canonical and church historical facts straight and also calm your “fear” of the Russians.
    Communism may be dead but “Pan-Russian Nationalism” similar to German National Socliasim is NOT dead, both in secuar AND religious pilitics, bioys!

  6. Dear Fr. Vladimir,

    I regret to tell you that you have some facts all wrong. Kiev was / is not a country. The Kievan appanage lands constituted medieval Rus and evolve to become a part of Russia. There was no “Nazi-style takeover” by Russia of any countries: Crimea was part of Russia for centuries and voted by referendum (one of the highest forms of democracy) to reunite with Russia in the face of extreme violence from radical groups in Ukraine; eastern Ukraine has been decimated in a genocide by a coup-Ukrainian regime targeting Russian speakers and in response formed two self-proclaimed autonomous republics (Donetsk and Lugansk); a European tribunal found Georgia (not Russia) guilty of the attempted genocide of the South Ossetians and attacks on Russian peacekeepers there. No countries have been “gobbled up” by Russia; this is pure Russophobic fantasy. The rest of your message is confused and patently anti-Russia and anti-Russian Orthodox. No further comment is needed here.

  7. Concerning the term “pan-Russian nationalism” and equating it with German national socialism, this is a false equation. The Russian diaspora has just as much right to be proud of its Russian heritage and have patriotic feelings as any other ethnic group. Would anyone criticize the Greek people for having these same honorable feelings? The Red Army defeated Nazi fascism in World War II, and the Greeks played a heroic role in this process as well; hence the suggestion of Russian feelings as being similar to those of the Nazis is especially incorrect and hurtful.

  8. I dissagree with all of your comments here. Firstly for the Patriarch of Moscow this is a political game and has nothing to do with the church. In 2016 when the Patriarch of Constantinople had a euclemenical council he had to move it from Istambul to Crete so the Patriarch of Moscow could attend (Turkey and Russia were fighting about the pilot that was shot over Syria by the turkish air force). At the last minute the Patriarch of Moscow and his allies pulled out and did not attend showing their utter disrespect of the Eucmenical Patriarch and disrespect to the orthodox church in general. The KGB recruited Kirill as an agent in the late 1960s or early 1972 that is why he has such good relations with Vladimir Putin he has an army of body guards like the ooligarchs in Russia. He has no interest in uniting with Rome or putting any effort in improving relations with Rome. They threaten Barthalemew with a scism violence if he goes ahead etc. This man is not an example to christians but a tool in Russias geopolitical game. He acts more like a gang leader than a Patriarch and has no comparison to Bartholemew who is a humble man . I lersonally like vladimir Putin but dont think the patriarch should play a role in politics. I think that orthodox christians world wide should respect the Eucmenical Patriarch and should see the political games being played here.

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